07-12-2011, 10:11 PM
I dunno why I'm so incredulous. Maybe because I've gotten so attached so sub 1.6 LBs, but has Mastery really overtaken Haste?
I know there is a problem with SimulationCraft right now with Draeneis because it doesn't seem to take into account our racial hit bonus. I'm getting stat weights on hit at 3.9 when I'm already above hit cap, but below with the racial. When I put on a piece that puts me above without the racial, the value plummets. I put in a ticket with the SC folks, but I'm having to fudge in the mean time.
As for mastery and haste, are we really at that point?
18-12-2011, 02:26 AM
anyone know the code to add chain lighting if clearcasting is up or maybe chain lightning if above 20% mana? much appreciated
03-01-2012, 07:57 AM
Can someone please tell me how to make plot and reforge plot graphs go further than the preset values of 200?
Last edited by Kinray; 03-01-2012 at 08:20 AM.
03-01-2012, 08:29 AM
04-01-2012, 10:09 AM
Can anyone tell me what these line mean?
actions+=/fire_elemental_totem,if=buff.volcanic_potion.up&te mporary_bonus.spell_power>=2800&(!ticking|remains< 25)
actions+=/fire_elemental_totem,if=!buff.volcanic_potion.up&t emporary_bonus.spell_power>=1600&(!ticking|remains <25)
Reason I ask is, 2 piece T12 sims better for me than 4 piece T13 when the fight is longer than 5 minutes (which is most heroic fights), and this applies to both normal and TF builds. It's the FE glyph that seems to pull it ahead. Why I'm asking is, I want to know how exactly the FE is simmed. I always time my second FE with a pot but I can't always drop it with both DMC:V and PT also, normally just PT and potion, does simcraft always wait until they're all up? Does it even pop a potion because even though there's a condition, there doesn't seem to be an action line saying 'pop potion later in the fight', unless I can't see it.
Thanks in advance.
04-01-2012, 03:58 PM
The first line drops the FE when you have both a potion and a DMC:V spellpower proc (or any other procs >= 1600 spellpower) and the 2nd line just does it when you have the DMC:V or equivalent spellpower proc present.
As far as trying to drop FE with both DMCV and PT, don't bother to try to get both, just make sure you only do it with DMCV and consider the PT proc a bonus if the CDs are still lined up enough to pull it off. PT pales in comparison to DMCV for the sake of procs boosting FE.
04-01-2012, 05:26 PM
Well I know, but from recent heroic Ultraxion attempts my FE resets at almost the exact time my PT has ~30 seconds left. Since I'm using TF and the boss is at around 30% at this point, I don't want to be waiting around with it so I just drop it with PT/potion (which conveniently procs at this point). Not sure on the maths with that though.
Just trying to decide whether to switch to the 4 piece or not, especially with this fight being our next progress point.
04-01-2012, 06:19 PM
I'd recommend creating a profile in chardev with 4pc and importing that straight to SimCT for comparison. You can get the rough duration of your guild's ultraxion fight and use that for duration to get closer to FE procs/etc
04-01-2012, 11:21 PM
I've already done exactly that, and it still sims lower. It's strange considering so many people say the 4 piece is better.
05-01-2012, 02:03 AM
This got me curious, so I took some time to run your profile myself and came up with some different results. I used a 450 sec fight length, mostly because I just wasn't sure what to use, so if you did alter this let me know and it will likely alter my results. I made sure it was with the FET glyph and TF spec.
Your current setup: 42949dps (range of 1914)
Switching chest and gloves, keeping JC cut in chest and enchants, then used wowreforge default scale factors for reforging: 43383dps (1992 range)
Took new scale factors (from previous sim) and put them into wowreforge and reforged accordingly: 43530dps (1998 range)
Based on these sims the 4pc is a clear upgrade, but if you tuned the fight length, I'd like to redo my sims just to see if there's an error I'm overlooking.
Hope you don't mind me doing this, btw... bored at work and had the time really.
05-01-2012, 09:56 AM
Just looking at the profiles for simc elemental shaman and in there there is 'actions+=/wind_shear' - what is the purpose of using this on CD? Sure i know it reduces threat but thats not an issue right now. Surley its a big dps loss to even bother?
05-01-2012, 10:32 AM
Wind shear is off GCD so you can use it whenever you are not casting. Though there is absolutely no reason to do it as you said yourself.
Since it is simming then it can do this action without any delay at all and there is no dps loss then.
05-01-2012, 11:56 AM
Makes sense - I knew it was off the GCD so it terms of a sim it wouldnt matter but if people are actually doing it in game then it would matter as you'd still need to be sending the command to the server etc so its some precious milliseconds lost :P Just didnt know if i was missing some major benefit
Originally Posted by Kementara
05-01-2012, 01:08 PM
Thought I'd piggyback off this quote. I tried making a chardev profile last night during raid and for the life of me couldn't get it to import. I had saved the profile, but the error kept saying that it couldn't identify my race, etc. Is there anything I missed? Thanks!
Originally Posted by Clef
05-01-2012, 05:44 PM
I've actually never received the error about race being unidentifiable. are you making the profile on your browser, then navigating to it through simct?
06-01-2012, 06:31 PM
What seems to be happening is that for a 350 sec fight nothing is beating 2 piece, but for a 450 sec fight 4 piece is beating 2 piece. 4 piece gets alot closer on 350 second fight though when I ticked 3% damage, which we don't normally have. I imagine not having this is making FE damage more attractive than personal damage.
Originally Posted by Clef
I'm still curious about the second line in that simcraft, because sometimes I drop my second FE with just my potion or just my potion and PT.
Last edited by Jen; 06-01-2012 at 06:49 PM.
06-01-2012, 08:03 PM
Since 430-5 just came out and I needed a reason to play with it, I re-ran my sims and 4pc still comes out ahead for me. I made sure to remove 3% dmg buff and set fight length to 350.
Your current setup: 42389dps
4pc added and setup reforged with SimCT scale factors: 42681dps
Am I missing something? Are you reforging for the new stat priorities after creating a 4pc setup?
06-01-2012, 08:04 PM
Also, you can just change the 1600 to 1200 in the second action line to make it essentially just account for a pot if you like and see how that comes out.
06-01-2012, 08:47 PM
/facepalm. I simmed my 4 piece profiles with FE glyph.
(Not all along, just for this) Had an upgraded T13 piece so that probably did it. Your work has not been wasted!
Last edited by Jen; 06-01-2012 at 09:14 PM.
06-01-2012, 08:58 PM
I did a lot of simming today too, since I finally decided to let go of 2T12 bonus (nooooooo!).
Just for fun, I tried every combination of these four prime glyphs : FS, FE, LB, LVB
And the best combination was FS, LVB and FE...that's with 4T13 of course. (normal patchwerk settings, 10000 iterations).